Comments on: Arm Is The New RISC/Unix, RISC-V Is The New Arm https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Tue, 18 Jul 2023 00:41:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Luis river https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-211281 Tue, 18 Jul 2023 00:41:16 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-211281 The true future about CPU/OS. Obvius RISC-V it is CPU winnner but on O.S. need a partnership by industry for made a product without total LINUX LOCKIN

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-207723 Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:48:01 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-207723 In reply to Chuck Barker.

I think you make a valid point. I have been calling it a data galaxy, not a data center.

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By: Chuck Barker https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-207675 Tue, 25 Apr 2023 14:59:07 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-207675 In reply to Bob Drzyzgula.

Bob D stated “This history kind of forgets that one important step in there was AMD pasting an X86 front end on a RISC core and calling it the K5. About six years later they pasted in 64-bit registers and instructions into the more mature Athlon architecture (still RISC-cored) and entirely killed off the Itanium.”

Lets add some nuance here. The one important step … for market adoption and success …was when AMD extended the x86 instruction set from 32 to 64 bit. The AMD implementation enabled customers to easily migrate their existing 32 bit x86 code onto a 64 bit processor. AMD gave customers an easy migration path. This approach was exactly the same technical approach that DEC used to gently migrate customers from the 16 bit PDP-11 to the 32 bit VAX. PDP-11 code could run in compatibility mode on a VAX.

On the other hand Intel’s thought customers would move to the 64 bit Itanium, which required the labor intensive task of rewriting code for a different instruction set. Customers took the path of least resistance by adopting the AMD path forward. x86-64 was born.

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By: Chuck Barker https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-207671 Tue, 25 Apr 2023 14:22:47 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-207671 In reply to Mel pullen.

Mel pullen says “IMHO, the internet and centralised cloud will be replaced by myriad mobile (and satallite) networks. Most of the Edge will communicate point to point.”

That is the vision I see and have been pondering on for several years.

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By: StewartW https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-200726 Sun, 13 Nov 2022 18:13:09 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-200726 Various people in this article seem to reiterate the fashionable opinion that custom/specialised hardware is the way forward. Has something fundamentally changed in computer architecture since the 1970s and the learnings from the work of people like John Cocke? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_801

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By: Tony G https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-198731 Mon, 03 Oct 2022 11:12:20 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-198731 In reply to Bob Drzyzgula.

The ARM move towards the data centre started around 2008-9. See https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_12_1014 which was when the project was coming to a close.

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By: Simon Glass https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-198458 Wed, 28 Sep 2022 03:29:05 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-198458 In reply to Torben Mogensen.

Acron RISC Machines was actually the name for ARM. It did ship a lot of chips and still does. Acorn Computer invented the architecture, but was just one of the customers.

So I think the article is correct.

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By: Hubert https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-198405 Mon, 26 Sep 2022 12:11:38 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-198405 In reply to Bob Drzyzgula.

I think the potential for ARM in the datacenter started to be more realistic 10 years ago when they introduced the 64-bit ARMv8, around 2011 (ARMv1 to ARMv7 were 32-bits). SPARC and others were already 64-bit since the mid 90s by comparison (15-to-20-year head-start). RISC-V is still quite young compared to those (and might want to channel Sophie Wilson’s neurons for upcoming iterations…).

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By: vang https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-198378 Sun, 25 Sep 2022 19:48:29 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-198378 Great read, both the article and the comment section

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/#comment-198376 Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:24:56 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=141238#comment-198376 In reply to Bob Drzyzgula.

I didn’t forget. I just used Intel as the example.

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