Comments on: Meta’s Llama 3 AI Is Smart, But Who Is Going To Profit From It? https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/04/22/metas-llama-3-ai-is-smart-but-who-is-going-to-profit-from-it/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Wed, 01 May 2024 14:20:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Slim Albert https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/04/22/metas-llama-3-ai-is-smart-but-who-is-going-to-profit-from-it/#comment-223516 Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:28:01 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144027#comment-223516 In reply to Calamity Jim.

It looks like Microsoft agrees with Meta on this, as they’ve (84 co-authors; 7 per page) just developed their “Phi-3 Mini” model, with ½ as many parameters as Llama 3 8B, yet similar MMLU performance (perf varies on other tests), and aimed at phones ( https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/23/microsoft_phi_3_mini/ ). It’s great to see this competition towards smaller yet as “accurate” models that can help reduce inference infrastructure costs.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/04/22/metas-llama-3-ai-is-smart-but-who-is-going-to-profit-from-it/#comment-223512 Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:21:16 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144027#comment-223512 In reply to John S.

They are adding AI so they can continue to make money in ads and social networking and messaging and trying to figure out how to make money in an AI-infused metaverse that people will live, work, and play in. Not a world I want to participate in. I will take the real one, thank you very much. But I have no doubt that lots of people will spend a lot of time there, just as they do with Facebook and TikTok today.

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By: John S https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/04/22/metas-llama-3-ai-is-smart-but-who-is-going-to-profit-from-it/#comment-223507 Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:37:34 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144027#comment-223507 So how it Meta making money off this? How is anyone outside of the hardware vendors making money off AI right now? Just looking at the numbers of GPUs to run the initial training, and the salaries of the engineers and scientists… it really makes me wonder if we’re going to hit the AIpocolypse in the next five years when people realize they’re not making money, but that NVidia has basically sucked all the money into their own coffers…

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By: Calamity Jim https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/04/22/metas-llama-3-ai-is-smart-but-who-is-going-to-profit-from-it/#comment-223483 Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:54:35 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144027#comment-223483 Cool article! Google (Norvig et al.) with its SparseCores ( https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/08/29/the-next-100x-for-ai-hardware-performance-will-be-harder/ ) seems to seek to train very large models that will “self-delineate” (prune) into domain-specialized activation sub-networks, from which inference efficiency would result. Their 2009 paper seems to suggest as much: “Choose a representation that can use unsupervised learning on unlabeled data”.

Meta on the other hand seems to focus more on a LeCun perspective that smaller models may work better: “a trillion words, it would take […] 22,000 years for a human reading eight hours a day to go through […]”. This, though, may require further exploration of model architectures, and here, Llama 3 remains “a relatively standard decoder-only transformer” (“Meta Platforms rolled out Llama 3” link). Hopefully, some more architectural explorations, and/or a mixture of simpler models, or even a combination of logic-based and biomimetic AI, can help get a “GPA of 83.9” with less than 800B parameters (to promote inference efficiency).

Funnily enough, the “Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data” paper states: “we can expect Semantic Web technology to work best where an honest, self-correcting group of cooperative users exists and not as well where competition and deception exist”. ANN-based AI would then come to the rescue of “logic-based” AI in such “human” situations, as in Noam Brown’s (OpenAI) approach to Texas hold’em poker, and Diplomacy (maybe).

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